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		<title>LETS FACE IT: COLLEGE FOOTBALL NEEDS POLLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjacobs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Jacobs 
Like them or not, college football will always have polls, not just because of the system, but because WE want themMad about where your team is ranked this time of the year?  That&#8217;s understandable.  Plenty of people are out there scratching their heads that in many rankings USF (That&#8217;s South Florida [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><no frames=""><br /><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Like them or not, college football will always have polls, not just because of the system, but because WE want them</span><br /></span></span><br />Mad about where your team is ranked this time of the year?  That&#8217;s understandable.  Plenty of people are out there scratching their heads that in many rankings USF (That&#8217;s South Florida for those of you scoring at home) is ranked higher then the likes of Miami and Notre Dame.</p>
<p>I have no problem if people want to disagree with the rankings, because that&#8217;s half the reason they are there.<span class="fullpost"></p>
<p>College football is so huge for a few key reasons:</p>
<p>1. Football in general is king in America<br />2. People love to argue and debate their school vs. yours<br />3. The system is flawed</p>
<p>Ever stop to think that college football execs looking down on us, are eating these poll controversies alive?  They are basking in it.  People are talking, and they are talking a lot.  And nothing draws hype to something, quite like talk.</p>
<p>Let me put it this way.  While polls are an extremely inexact science, they do serve a purpose.  They give us fodder to go by at the beginning of the year.  Case in point: true college football fans will watch no matter what, but how many more people will watch a game because one team has a number 2 by its name and the other a number 15.</p>
<p>This weekend for example, Tennessee and Cal, both top 15 teams, square off in the opener of their season.  Could you honestly look me straight in the eye, and say that the allure of having such high ranked teams square off week one doesn&#8217;t generate some buzz and excitement?</p>
<p>And again, I want to continue to re-iterate that the polls have issues.  Afterall, if USC runs the table, they will be in the national championship game.  But isn&#8217;t that the case for most BCS Schools?  Under the rare case of three teams going undefeated, there is always going to be someone left miserable (see Auburn), but aren&#8217;t the polls more for the fans then anything?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge sports fan, and I watch the sport religiously, but I won&#8217;t lie and persuade you to believe I remember everything about 2006.  Cause I don&#8217;t.  Polls bring us up to speed.  They get us back into the mode.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard people say, well, could you imagine if the NFL decided its champion that way.  No! Two totally different situations.  In the NFL, you have eight cut and dry division winners, and four wild cards.  The best record gets the job done.  Not so in college, where strength of schedule, conference alignment, time of the year you lost, even when you played all come into account.  Plus, the NFL has uh, 32 teams, whereas D1 has upwards of 120 and counting.  So while I&#8217;m far from a fan of the current BCS System, comparing it to pro simply is not fair.</p>
<p>People love to debate, and ranking teams 1-25 (Number 26 just isn&#8217;t good enough to make the list), is something our country obsesses over.  We are enamored with all sorts of rankings in general.  Power Rankings on line, lists of greatest teams, players, movies, coaches, stadiums, uniforms, etc. all rile us up.</p>
<p>So its just important to keep that in mind.  Polls are good for college football.  People care just that little extra because teams have a number next to their name.  In the wacky world of what have you done for me lately, that is college football&#8217;s greatest drawing power.  That, and well, Notre Dame.  Gag.</p>
<p><u><b>My Favorate College Football Books</b></u><br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316278246?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=juicedmerch-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0316278246">A Civil War: Army Vs. Navy a Year Inside College Football&#8217;s Purest Rivalry</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=juicedmerch-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0316278246" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> John Feinstein, who wrote Next Man Up and A Good Walk Ruined, brings the emotions of the Army-Navy game into their purest forms.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401337031?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=juicedmerch-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=1401337031">ESPN College Football Encyclopedia: The Complete History of the Game</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=juispoblo-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=1401337031" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> Detailed stats and history on every player, team, and conference to ever be part of the game.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0609807137?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=juispoblo-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0609807137">Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer: A Road Trip into the Heart of Fan Mania</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=juicedmerch-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0609807137" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> Alabama football at it&#8217;s best.  You don&#8217;t get much more intense than Bama fans.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicedsportsblog.com/2007/09/college-football-roundup-constantly.html">College Football Scores, Stats, Stories for Saturday, September 8</a> Oklahoma asserts their dominance, West Virginia runs, runs, runs, Nebraska holds on over Wake Forest, and Michigan takes on Oregon.</p>
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		<title>READERS RESPOND: SHOULD THERE BE A PRESEASON POLL?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mhblatt</dc:creator>
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Hank W Thinks NoI wrote last week that preseason college football polls are perfectly fine and that people who railed against their unfairness were wrong.  Recently, I have recieved email from someone named Hank who thought that the polls were unfair.  Here is what he had to say and what I replied [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><no frames><br /><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Hank W Thinks No</span><br /></span></span><br />I wrote last week that <a href="http://www.juicedsportsblog.com/2007/08/preseason-polls-dont-mean-anything-so.html">preseason college football polls are perfectly fine</a> and that people who railed against their unfairness were wrong.  Recently, I have recieved email from someone named Hank who thought that the polls were unfair.  Here is what he had to say and what I replied to him.<span class="fullpost"></p>
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<blockquote>Maybe it is because the polls are used to determine who plays in the<br />BCS championship, and starting out on top gives a team a direct<br />competitive advantage over other teams in that regard?  Picking a<br />Super Bowl winner doesn&#8217;t give a team any advantage in winning the<br />championship; being ranked #1 does.</p></blockquote>
<p>(My responces are paraphrased, because my inbox didn&#8217;t save the sent emails.)<br />Yes, but by the end of the season, the teams will have played each other enough that the voters will have been able to change their opinion based on the results.</p>
<blockquote><p>If three teams go undefeated or there are a bevy of one loss teams<br />they will fall in according to their original ranking, that is why<br />there it is an advantage.  Preseason polls handicap suprise teams.  Do<br />you remember 2004?  How USC and Oklahoma started the season ranked 1-2<br />and then ended it that way?  Problem was, Auburn also went undefeated<br />and played a much, MUCH harder schedule than Oklahoma, as the Tigers<br />beat 4 top 15 teams during the season.  Oklahoma beat one.  Auburn was<br />the better team, just look at the ridiculous talent they had on that<br />squad; Ronnie Brown, Carnell Williams, Jason Campbell, and Carlos<br />Rogers.  So why was Oklahoma still #2?  Because Auburn started the<br />year at #17, that is why.  Being higher in the preseason poll has a<br />direct impact on the national championship picture, period.  And oh<br />yeah, Oklahoma was obliterated by USC 55-19 in the championship game.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because USC and Oklahoma were thought to be better than Auburn.  The reason they were ranked #17 at the start of the season was because people didn&#8217;t think they were good enough, and they hadn&#8217;t gained enough supporters during the season to overthrow Oklahoma or USC.  The poll simply showed that people didn&#8217;t expect them to be good.  It didn&#8217;t make people downgrade them.  It reveals opinion, not creates it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, I guess I will just agree to disagree.  I see what you are<br />saying, I just feel that there is a human element of wanting your<br />pre-season pick to be &#8220;right&#8221; that would enter into people&#8217;s minds in<br />a situation like 2004.  In the end, there are many things in college<br />football that need to be fixed before pre-season polls do.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>PRESEASON POLLS DON&#8217;T MEAN ANYTHING, SO STOP CRYING!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mhblatt</dc:creator>
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 Uptight, Overly Serious Sports Writers Should Stop Complaining About How &#8220;Unfair&#8221; The Preseason Polls Are  You can get through the college football season without hearing it a few billion times.  The BCS system, based not on playoffs, but on voting, is unfair.  (That may be so, but that [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><no frames> <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Uptight, Overly Serious Sports Writers Should Stop Complaining About How &#8220;Unfair&#8221; The Preseason Polls Are</span> </span></span><br /> You can get through the college football season without hearing it a few billion times.  The BCS system, based not on playoffs, but on voting, is unfair.  (That may be so, but that is a subject for a future post.)  Another incessant talking point thrown out by writers with inflatted egos who want to sound smart is that the preseason college football polls are unfair because they give a team a rank before they even start playing.  However, the voters have 12 games to watch each team play and adjust their votes accordingly.  Releasing a poll prior to the season does nothing to change the results of the poll at the end of the season.<span class="fullpost">  Or so it would seem.  However, people like Stweart Mandel think differently.  Mandel, author of the book so important to our country&#8217;s future, <i>Bowls, Polls, and Tattered Souls</i>, says that the teams ranked the highest in the preseason will get the benefit of the doubt in the final poll.  For example, if USC, Ohio State, and LSU were to all finish the season undefeated, USC would play LSU in the championship just because LSU was ranked higher.  While it is probably true that LSU would play USC in that situation, the reasoning is flawed.  LSU would get the call over Ohio State because LSU is perceived to be better than OSU.  The fact that they were ranked higher in the preseason poll is simply a symptom of that fact, not the cause.  The polls reveal opinion; they don&#8217;t create it.  If there were no preseason poll, the voters wouldn&#8217;t suddenly decide not to rank the teams in their minds.  They wouldn&#8217;t simply lose their interest in football.  One of the most popular pastimes of the American sports fan is projecting what will happen, who will be best.    In any sport, the two best teams should square off in the championship.  This is exactly what each college football voter tries to do with their votes.  Usually, it goes to undefeated teams, but if there is ever a debate, it should come down to who is the best team.  Because the system relies on voting, it goes to whoever the voters think is best.  When looking at LSU and OSU, it is obvious why LSU is expected to be better.  If OSU shows they are better in the regular season, they will likely move ahead of LSU, but if both teams play equally well, the higher ranking should go to the one that looks better on paper.  That&#8217;s college football for you.  </p>
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